Yesterday, Vox Day had a post outlining some left/right defining characteristics.
A perfect example of this is everyone's favorite litmus test - the Nazis. "Nazi" stands for National Socialist after all, so they would appear to be either: a) left-wing nationalists, or b) right-winger socialists.
Actually, they were left-wing imperialists, proof of the imperialist part being they invaded their neighbors at every compass point. They may have started out as nationalists, favoring the Volk, but their economy was a mess and the only way they could retain power was to start a war and go loot other nations.
And, once you become imperialists, the anti-family part is required too. Imperialists need foot-soldiers to go invade the world, so children cannot belong to their families, they must belong to the State (commentor Azure Amaranthine got into some of this over on VP too).
I think it's also likely that if a genuinely right-wing society encounters economic stress and tries to solve it with banditry, it can force itself to morph into a left-wing society. This might be the general explanation for the fall of the Roman Republic after the Punic Wars.
At its core, the left-right divide all comes down to the most basic principles.Much discussion resulted of course, but Darth Dharmakīrti wrote this:
Left = Plato. Anti-Christian. Anti-family. Imperialist.Right = Aristotle. Christian. Pro-family. Nationalist.
I think the heuristic works except for the imperialist/nationalist bit. I think you can have left-wing nationalism and right-wing imperialism.He went on to discuss acceptance or rejection of spiritual authority, which discussion I will leave to Darth, but I wanted to point out that Leftism cannot be sustainably nationalistic. It might - in larval form - be nationalistic but must fairly soon become imperialistic. Because another characteristic of leftism is that it is parasitic. I cannot generate self-sustaining prosperity, it must mine it from other societies.
A perfect example of this is everyone's favorite litmus test - the Nazis. "Nazi" stands for National Socialist after all, so they would appear to be either: a) left-wing nationalists, or b) right-winger socialists.
Actually, they were left-wing imperialists, proof of the imperialist part being they invaded their neighbors at every compass point. They may have started out as nationalists, favoring the Volk, but their economy was a mess and the only way they could retain power was to start a war and go loot other nations.
And, once you become imperialists, the anti-family part is required too. Imperialists need foot-soldiers to go invade the world, so children cannot belong to their families, they must belong to the State (commentor Azure Amaranthine got into some of this over on VP too).
I think it's also likely that if a genuinely right-wing society encounters economic stress and tries to solve it with banditry, it can force itself to morph into a left-wing society. This might be the general explanation for the fall of the Roman Republic after the Punic Wars.
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